In This Episode of Heart & Hands of a Maker
When we talk about art, we often focus on the finished product—the polished jewelry, the intricate detail, the final form. But behind every piece of meaningful work is a maker whose story is anything but polished. In this episode of Heart and Hands of a Maker, I had the privilege of speaking with Robert Lopez, a metalsmith, jewelry designer, instructor, toolmaker, and deeply soulful creator whose work is as bold and beautiful as the journey that shaped it.
Creative Journey: Jewelry designer, metalsmith, tool maker, lapidary artist
This is more than a conversation about technique; it’s about resilience, risk-taking, and the beauty that comes from embracing the dents, dings, and imperfections of life—both in jewelry and in one’s self.
There’s a moment in the conversation that still echoes: “I was too dumb to fail.”
That radical honesty summed up how Robert approached risk. Without formal training, industry contacts, or financial safety nets, he still quit his job in construction to go all-in on jewelry.
And he didn’t just survive—he thrived. Because he chose boldness over safety, truth over trend, and originality over imitation.
Find Robert here:
Key Episode Takeaways
- The value of originality and artistic risk
- Self-taught journey vs. formal training in jewelry-making
- The emotional connection between personal growth and art
- Toolmaking innovation and entrepreneurship
- Teaching with intention and heart
- Importance of community and mentorship in creative industries
The Real Takeaway? Be Bold.
If there’s one thread running through Robert’s story, it’s boldness.
Robert didn’t wait for permission to become an artist. He didn’t let the fear of failure stop him. There was no interest in conforming to trends or bend to outside pressure. He just kept showing up—torch in hand, vision in heart.
“The people who are remembered,” he says, “are the ones who take risks. Sure, you might fall. You might mess up. But that’s where the magic happens.”
And that’s the kind of creative fire we should all be chasing.
Chapters
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00:00
The Bold and the Creative Journey
01:05
Introducing Robert Lopez: A Multifaceted Artist
02:08
From Lapidary to Jewelry Making
06:47
The Importance of Originality in Art
10:17
Building Confidence in Artistic Expression
14:26
Embracing Failure as a Learning Tool
18:45
The Challenge and Joy of Metalsmithing
19:31
Exploring Materials: Argentium Silver and Titanium
27:12
Innovating Tools for Artistry
31:27
Navigating Parenthood and Personal Growth
32:52
From Hobby to Business: The Journey Begins
38:13
Building a Supportive Community
44:00
Art as a Reflection of Self
50:50
Balancing Life, Art, and Family
55:08
Teaching and Evolving as an Artist
In This Episode of Heart & Hands of a Maker
There are some conversations that leave you fired up, a little teary-eyed, and ready to take on the world. My talk with Julianna Avelar — author, jewel loom inventor and several other looms(!), weaving expert, content queen, jewelry instructor, and creative force of nature — was exactly that.
Jewelry maker, loom and tool inventor, community leader
Julianna’s journey is one of bold pivots, deep introspection, and the kind of entrepreneurial resilience that creatives everywhere can relate to. Whether you’re stringing beads, launching a product, or figuring out your “what’s next,” Julianna’s story is a reminder that passion and purpose go hand-in-hand — but you’ve got to do the work.
In the beginning...
Back in 1991, Julianna had no idea she was about to step into the creative industry. Living in a tiny California town, she was simply looking for a job after her son was born. She answered a call for a production position — and ended up at Aleene’s Creative Living, the brand behind Aleene’s Tacky Glue.
From hand-filling bottles to working behind the scenes on Aleene’s TV show, she quickly transitioned from warehouse production to producing content and eventually, being on camera herself.
“I never had any intention of being on-air. I just loved the idea of producing and managing projects.”
One canceled guest segment led to her stepping in on-air with a handmade wreath. The rest is creative TV history.
“When you have all these cool things you could do, focus on the one that’s actually feeding your soul — and your dinner table.”
Jewels
To Find Julianna:
Key Episode Takeaways
- Start before you’re ready – Done is better than perfect.
- You can’t serve your community until you serve yourself.
- Stop undercharging. Your work, time, and energy have value. Respect it.
- Know your “why.” When you’re gifted in many areas, you need to focus on what feeds your purpose.
- Build your email list – Social media can disappear, but your list is gold.
- Community is everything – Surround yourself with support, both professionally and personally.
Timestamps
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00:00 – Intro: Meet Julianna Avelar
01:45 – From crockpots to craft glue: Julianna’s unexpected creative start
06:57 – Her first TV appearance (because of a natural disaster!)
08:17 – Beading beginnings: tackle boxes, fishing line, and a dream
10:40 – Birth of the Jewel Loom & getting a patent
13:51 – Weaving goddess: creating looms with soul
16:40 – E-commerce and entrepreneurship through the pandemic
22:44 – Serving community, pricing right & empowering others
33:20 – Making, money, and the art of giving back
40:08 – Learning, evolving, and embracing the title of “online retailer”
50:23 – Mindset, trauma, and the emotional journey of building a biz
57:14 – Why email is still your most powerful tool
01:01:06 – Final thoughts: resilience, cheerleading, and showing up
In This Episode of Heart & Hands of a Maker
We’re joined by the incredibly talented Katie Hacker, an author, inventor, jewelry-making expert, and creative content master. Katie shares insights from her creative journey, revealing behind-the-scenes realities of her career, the value of embracing imperfection, and the importance of mental health and balance in creative businesses.
The Creative Journey: More Than Just Making
Katie’s path has been anything but linear. From organic farming to massage therapy, her diverse experiences have all contributed to her creative outlook. Throughout the episode, Katie emphasizes that creativity isn’t limited to one medium—whether designing jewelry, writing, or curating content, it all comes from the same innovative spirit.
“I think part of what we do as creatives is just connecting people,” Katie shares. “It’s about taking an idea and turning it into something meaningful.”
Managing the Creative Hustle
With a career spanning more than two decades, Katie shares practical ways to manage multiple creative projects without getting overwhelmed.
Some of Katie’s top tips include:
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Use visual tools like whiteboards and project trays to keep track of ideas.
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Give yourself permission to explore creative hobbies without monetizing everything.
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Balance organization with spontaneity to maintain both structure and joy in the process.
To Find Katie:
Key Episode Takeaways
- Be patient with yourself during times of growth.
- Creative journeys are often filled with ups and downs.
- Social media has changed the landscape of creativity.
- Authenticity in content creation is crucial.
- Balancing creativity with business responsibilities is challenging.
- Organizational tools can help manage multiple projects.
- Mental health plays a significant role in creativity.
- Finding joy in the creative process is essential.
- It’s okay to embrace imperfection in your work.
Chapters
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Chapters
00:00 Navigating Creative Growth and Self-Care
01:06 Introduction to Katie Hacker and Her Journey
03:08 The Evolution of Creative Expression
05:55 The Impact of Social Media on Creativity
08:49 Leveraging Technology in Creative Work
11:00 The Importance of Authentic Content
13:56 Balancing Creativity and Business
16:54 Organizational Strategies for Creatives
20:13 The Role of Mental Health in Creativity
23:03 Finding Joy in the Creative Process
25:51 The Business of Crafting and Making Jewelry
31:42 Exploring Creative Jewelry Making
38:00 The Journey of Writing and Brand Voice
46:20 Evolving Through Opportunities and Challenges
53:05 Finding Balance and Embracing Imperfection
In This Episode of Heart & Hands of a Maker
Tammy is joined by Jan Carlson and Rochelle Peterson of the Upper Midwest Bead Society. They explore how this thriving community celebrates creativity, connection, and lifelong learning. From their impactful programming to the friendships they’ve cultivated, Jan and Rochelle share the story of how beads bring people together across 21 states and beyond.
Community & Connection at the Heart of It All
Whether you’re a seasoned beader or just curious about this dynamic group, this episode offers inspiration, practical insights, and a heartfelt invitation to connect.
- The society’s pivot to virtual meetings during COVID-19 and its new digital offerings.
- Monthly programming like “Let’s Bead Live” and retreats designed to foster creativity and connection.
- The incredible network of bead artists, including 18 published members and founder Diane Fitzgerald.
- Celebrating 35 years of creativity and innovation, featuring crowns, sashes, and collaborative projects.
- Fundraising efforts that keep membership accessible and programming vibrant.
To Find the UMBS:
Key Episode Takeaways
- Community First: The Upper Midwest Bead Society thrives on shared learning, inclusivity, and friendships.
- Learning at Any Level: From beginners to seasoned artists, the society offers programs that nurture creativity and growth.
- Digital Adaptation: Their transition to online platforms has expanded their reach and enriched member experiences.
- The Power of Giving Back: Members actively contribute through fundraisers, workshops, and generous volunteering.
Chapters
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00:04 – Introduction to Jan and Rochelle
01:00 – Jan shares her journey with the society and how creativity became a vital outlet
03:00 – Rochelle’s transition from fashion to beads and her work with Team Toho
08:30 – The evolution of the society’s virtual programming
10:00 – Membership growth and representation across the U.S.
12:00 – Highlights from the society’s retreats and classes
20:00 – Behind-the-scenes of their vibrant online and in-person events
28:00 – The importance of creative community and support
31:00 – Fun at the state fair: demonstrations and award-winning beadwork
35:00 – Fundraising and making membership accessible to all
39:00 – Closing thoughts: Why beadwork is the ultimate creative escape
In This Episode of Heart & Hands of a Maker
Tamara Honaman sits down with Wyatt White—a jewelry-making expert, tool inventor, and passionate instructor. Wyatt shares his remarkable journey, from his early days in Gallup, NM, to becoming a cornerstone of the jewelry community.
Jewelry maker, tool inventor, community leader
With over 40 years of experience, Wyatt reflects on lessons learned, the importance of humility, and his enduring passion for empowering others through creativity. Tune in for a mix of inspiration, practical advice, and heartfelt anecdotes!
In the beginning...
Wyatt’s path to becoming a jewelry-making expert was anything but linear. In the early 1980s, he found himself working at a lumberyard in Gallup, New Mexico. After being laid off, a serendipitous encounter with Phil Woodard of Indian Jewelers Supply introduced Wyatt to the world of jewelry findings. Wyatt recalls his first reaction: “I like to find things!” Little did he know that “findings” referred to components like clasps and earring posts, foundational elements of jewelry design.
Immersing himself in this new world, Wyatt learned on the job, rotating through departments to understand every facet of jewelry supply. Over time, he fell in love with the craft, mastering tools and techniques while forging lifelong connections with artisans and creators.
Key Episode Takeaways
- Be flexible in order to succeed in business.
- Humility is essential in personal and professional growth.
- Sharing knowledge can inspire and uplift others.
- Building a legacy involves mentoring the next generation.
- Community support is vital for creative individuals.
- Creativity is a muscle that needs to be exercised.
- Building a supportive community is essential for personal growth.
- Positivity can help overcome negative self-perceptions.
- Adapting to change is crucial in a post-COVID world.
- Investing in quality tools is important for success.
- Friendship plays a vital role in navigating challenges.
- Trust your instincts and follow your passion.
Chapters
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Chapters
00:00 The Creative Journey Begins
02:54 From Lumberyard to Jewelry
06:14 Learning the Craft
09:07 The Evolution of Jewelry Making
11:55 Cultural Connections in Jewelry
14:47 Lessons from the Industry
18:05 Career Transitions and New Opportunities
20:56 Building a Legacy in Jewelry
23:53 The Importance of Humility
26:50 Sharing Knowledge and Inspiration
35:28 The Value of Experience and Friendship
36:50 Adapting to Change in a Post-COVID World
38:48 Creativity as a Driving Force
43:11 Building Community and Connection
51:18 Teaching Techniques and Sharing Knowledge
55:37 Cultivating a Positive Community
01:01:30 Embracing Change and New Opportunities




